that but chris steven was a dedicated public servant communicating with people on the ground in libya, benghazi who represented what i think is the best values of what the united states is trying to achieve in these places, working with the people there, understanding the language and the culture. >> he spoke the language. >> he did. and the truth is, is that i think this is -- when things flare up, there's like a couple of different kinds of responses. there's like what we need to do, get out of there be more passive, withdraw. and the other side, which is where romney is, it's like we need to be more belligerent, forceful. what is happening on the ground that we see from chris stevens is in between those things. >> that connects with point you were making, proposals in the house attach more conditions of egypt funding is not the right way to go? >> i think you need to continue building relationship with the governments because if you do what reagan did in '82 he empowered hezbollah. the most important neither lebanon that controls the region is hezbollah. if you disengage, you empower extremi